tv [untitled] November 13, 2012 11:30pm-12:00am EST
some of the old notion of the corporation is based on what's called limited liability limited liability means that individual participants are. not be charged with crimes that the corporation commits the kind to very limited one of the major runs its course and. the corporation acts in such a way that kills the managers the c.e.o. and the shareholders have a limited liability and it's not that they have disregard for human life they may be the nicest people in the world maybe give to charity who knows what but in their institutional rule as managers of the corporation there is a task that they asked. that task is to maximize profit market share. if they don't do that they're out and somebody else is in the indian government meanwhile
declares itself the sole representative of the victims and proceeded to sort out the case for four hundred seventy million dollars which was sort of cheap the union carbide start went up by two dollars a share the sentiment was people could not mean that it could be such a grew old sellout because the new government agreed to settle all bonds to present and future liabilities for a sum as small as four hundred seventy million dollars. people received as little as five hundred dollars but lifelong injuries and. unpunished. i believe whatever happened in the past we can all change it but what is happening now is in our control it's been twenty seven years and the government shouldn't these do something like people should get clean water because the ground water is
contaminated whoever survived that night and whatever life is left for the gas victims they should get proper treatment so they can spend the rest of their lives . as in good health. there are gas and water victim children who are born with deformities and their future has to be kept in mind so that these kids can live a proper life and so that their parents do not take them to some sort of burden or to nothing. you're welcome. i love and that's. good afternoon c.h.r.y. this is only summer f.m. to la and i'm joined on the line by sun j. vermont who is an activist in the bhopal campaign and also a survivor of the terrible disaster in one nine hundred eighty four so sanjay can you tell us a bit about what happened to you on the night of december third one thousand nine hundred four well i was born in july before i was a few months already so i remember and i are so up and well about and and really
don't know why i asked myself so because i had no one with me at the parent meeting at my school so she would like they all died that i would and then. i would be. so she was like. i really know very few in my own eyes that you want a blanket and i ran i saw. sunday was. his sister was nine his older brother i mean he was only thirteen and these were the only people left alive in a family of. all the years in my family old runaways i was told later two of them died in hospital like. my mother and father. in the bodies of three sisters who have by. the other two are missing.
they lost their parents. and three sisters and two brothers calling one night. my bad and. my family members die because of this fact. and his sister when students didn't. but it is a godsend because there was a thousand people at but according to the people who were carrying out bodies from the g eight from the houses around seven thousand to ten thousand people had died in the next seventy two hours and. twenty five thousand people have died. i remember my but that all came up and organize it and. then automatically i myself got involved in the fight and i joined like other organizations i think.
now we are while all of the young guys factory. playing they don't know how contaminated the factory how on going again the soil on the factories there like security inside the factory money are not paying attention towards them . while we did a study we just want to just extend the chemical contamination build a factory and i will die and see if there is a linkage because there by building it is going to go on for all going to school that's the site because they've got to make this the site justified it is easy if you look at all the guys here mitt romney. very high end of the day.
and want to die one of the phone mostly as i hear it how do you know in fact when event is up around i did this photo get out and you can still see the market is the start of this thing and they're close not surprising that the plant is very high on bottom ok. we have received very important documents in this case that i think establish very clearly that union carbide knew with advance as early as nine hundred seventy three that this pollution problem that we are facing today they knew this was going to happen and they and they went ahead with this project despite that specific knowledge as early as one nine hundred seventy three union carbide engineers or warning the company that the plant presents an unusual challenge in that there's no nearby running body of water into which waste can be discharged so from the design stage waste disposal at the plant was that was of major concern. a lot of the waste streams from the plant emptied into the area of the plant known as the solar evaporation pond
area. here this is where the waste in toxic sludge were dumped basically and carby we're standing right on top of it and the other side is you can see there used to be a small leak which you know and carbonate also used as a dumping ground for they waste people depended on the water from the link so they drank it and it cost and pedantic. union carbide knew from the design stage that the bhopal plant could pollute groundwater they also knew that there was a there was a surrounding community that used that groundwater for its drinking water supply. so they believe that they can get rid of someone. by evil parading it and and then when they had like some kind of sludge so they took all dust from the bones and they dumped here and there and you see this black line. underneath the ground of this landfill they believe that this kind of lining if. it
can keep. away from the. lining and the need to go on every day i was here. we believe the solar of operation ponds continues to be a source of the subsurface water pollution that's now reaching through the article for and spreading into the surrounding communities and can be detected as far away as three kilometers from the main plant campus so that evacuation order was before very high was groovy you see it was using. only english and one of the this will be an isolated recent one. on the factory what is still being gone dominated and people are forced to needed water because
they do not have any other choice of way will remain a source of pollution for this area until it is remedial and the party that can do that is you know the december will mark the twenty fifth anniversary of the tragedy at a union carbide india ltd facility in bhopal and even today continues to evoke strong emotions globally and rightfully so we're saddened however that despite all that has been written about the tragedy in the past twenty five years so many misconceptions still exist about union carbide and it's wrong the government of india is the appropriate entity to address any i'm going to express by the people of bhopal. we are saddened by the fact that the site remains on remediated adding to the tragedy that has occurred the site today is in the hands of the state government of madhya pradesh the state government. and together with the central government they are trying to get the site cleaned up union carbide it's now a wholly owned subsidiary of dow chemical dow chemical. two thousand one
third the board. carbide approve the burger agreement create the world's second largest chemical. does complicate things and doesn't because the law on contamination is very clear in india and in the u.s. and. the polluter pays principle is the idea under international law that the liability for pollution should always be traced back to the polluter the polluter should not be able to externalize the costs of pollution onto society at large or up to third party it shouldn't be the government's responsibility to clean up at public expense after private polluters. so no no no no no no that is one of the. people. drinking contaminated water you see this just like. in the neighborhood and then we got
a lot of this bomb tested every founded highly contaminated but they do not have any other choice and they are drinking this water. it was like some time two thousand and four it was sometime in the evening. when i was eased back to my home there was a letter written by my brother that it didn't read. i'm going to die in a few men eggs so take it off yourselves and he was like he was laying on his back in this room so i had to phone one of my one of my brother's friends and they said . moore the brother. and father died that day. before that he had run into a bear for. had tried to set him off. he didn't have any physical problem and. his sickness was that of paranoia and. if anyone.
i believe that a war inhales with time but in both cases it's getting worse. if we blame each other for everything when no solution will come. from a government blames the company we blame the government part of the government suffers the company suffers and most importantly the people of bhopal suffer. another member actually who was the media person who asked me this question who do you blame to work surely according to you. before i answered his question he said you are god man but he said to me your garments like ditching you they have been the people from. so if your government is not availing to help you then work with them because they do for you. on that but i'm not particular night on the second
and third december some gases from the union carbide leaks and some of the people who died are now being an autopsy surgeon it was my moral duty to find out what the cause of death was. just after analysis it was established that cyanide was present to get it were alone with nearly twenty nine components are to which it team were deadly. like in hiroshima and nagasaki it had an adverse effect on their genes so similarly this adverse effect of the gases causing genetic mutation in india. would like that we don't speak about bhopal because it's not a good image of all india in america they don't want to talk about because in spite of the fact that there is a wall of and fall the rest against mr wong and. i mr anderson has retired in a beautiful house in wrong new york and of course never. it
was a bone of glacier we're looking at we're going to be inventive and one of the implications is putting nation which you know the more than thirty thousand people are affected and the people who are drinking the polluted water have known about the problems this can problems that is this is through the. industrial. age of foreign investment. that not all are sick and that's the position that having to get specific governments are not in business to protect the population. that's what they say they are but it's usually a pretty low priority. don't take any worry that somebody stored the paperwork or the records the country stored it pretty often loses. often the loss of the work through the population but the leaders were willing to take the risk or it was the .
least want to respond is an us stock to leave the government just pimping for chemicals and these are the same people who have so far stalled. we strongly feel that on this occasion of the twenty seventh anniversary we will be able to the stronger than mixes and we will get justice. they have not begun to get on by the other one. of the people responsible and it's good to know this is not. really have. five years what can we not get just a little about what isn't new but. it's like
i was hired to do. for you. to bring all of the computer applications. i saw. because they are more concerned about bottom line profit than anything i just decided that i was making a profit for just the wrong people and made the decision to purchase union carbide knowing that these liabilities were outstanding so when you purchase the assets of a company to purchase those liabilities. we are just asking for our right to clean water union carbide is fully exploited the sort of international dimension of this problem it informs the american courts that new york law can't because these events took place in india at the same time this indian law doesn't apply so in effect they're arguing that they're above the. national. appropriate behavior for.
us of course international law as noble and force a. force for somebody who's going first if the united states doesn't force a. political body they should take responsibility for burp out of. nowhere dime from the water no one is offering clean water they have no choice. dow chemical go to how it's going to how to how. agents of dow should be spanked. if you look submit to the jurisdiction of india then you'll have to submit to the american boards and the american courts after it was all about. in two thousand and four the supreme court's directed the government to provide clean and safe water but the government to stage one central has failed to honor the supreme court order. then the problem is that by november two thousand and nine
the government would supply clean water but that's a promise was never fulfilled and look at some pipelines were laid in some areas but not in every area the water they're supplying the spikes his duty and not feed for drinking water all street comes from rush like kids and dad get my definition of mission control board certified advanced pretty high concentrations of coal i do so knowing this water is what is being supplied to locals who have given their lives. oh. no company should realize that it cannot break this country's low. i budget if we win this fight outsiders will gain nothing again will be for years
the people of palm. you know what we have asked for is the clean up cost union carbide should clean all the poisonous and powerful toxic chemicals that are stored inside the plant. army to the groundwater which is polluted in a radius of three kilometers around the plant should be cleaned and union carbide should be paid for about to. bring anderson to india bring them here dow chemical leave india leave india on top of that we have asked for compensation for the victims who are suffering. it's our mission to fight for people who are weak people who cannot fight for themselves or even know how. union carbide should bear these expenses because in the coming ten to fifteen years people will keep getting affected due to the growing water contamination and will
be more prone to cancers like diseases using human body. body as we are fighting for our society we are fighting for our country we are fighting for gas victims. it's only by virtue of the fact of this outfit if it indeed. able to exist. that's coming out this year a fresh known bailable warrant has been issued for foreigners anderson. and if the government fails to wake up and help then we are committed to fight the next twenty seven years against the nexus between the company and the government the process could change dramatically if the union or went into the streets after that it's not going to somebody in the building i mean really i'm not and they don't have to be afforded to so much of it in the government what they have. said to the government if they want this ruling. and if you're right that it was worth it was that.
they were all this it was in cold blood they're so good they have submitted a letter all of this that's all over the local police were i. get them any ideas from our research one thing is very clear the union carbide india factory is infected with poison food it is a poison which will not lead to death just by touching it so i can understand why their money pradesh government is saying there is no poison. but it is also true that it's a kind of poison that is leaking into our environment that is the main thing i am saying is that the factory should be cleaned as soon as possible. god has given you this word but all the facilities that god has given everything here why destroyed. felt come on friends join the march with the
victims and show that your passion has not cooled down. i. was not turned down because we did not get justice and unless we get justice a passion will never cleaned out. every year millions of people are dying because of his unburdened the pursuit of profit. in what inflatable bhalla saying is that you cannot do it you are not allowed to do it because life is sacred and that cannot be violated. i cut it is my hour the twang day or the strength from the rest of the world who will get justice from dell company that i get. the twenty fifth anniversary is just to learn my before your father verse read the first of the diverse read will be as important for the final goal. i'm not gore is to clean the factory farm all those toxic
effluents which still pull you the water that the people have to drink. the amazon i want the world to understand the crime of these companies they profit from the analysts products as they show on t.v. . the same products voice in our lives not only. we should never allow down to continue their poisonous business in any other city in the world soon that another book power will not be repeated. each day they were three gives us more spirit gives us more encouragement people i'll know what i have been for and may get more support than the previous year if there is justice and this world would be safer for all of us today because it would set a precedent a parent company cannot set up a subsidiary somewhere in the world create a large scale environmental problem and then when the time comes to fix liability
sell off its local subsidiary and then retreat to the united states or any other developed country and a basically say that nobody can sue them here nobody can hold them accountable so that's the sort of context in which if our litigation were to be successful it would set it important precedent. i am.
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